I also hate the idea of Discord for this list.

Jay

On 7/13/26 07:19, Robert Johnston via EV wrote:
Please not Discord. While it is a great communication tool (and I moderate
some very large discord communities), it is very much a sink for
discoverability and archiving. Unlike forums (that persist), anything
posted in a discord is hard to discover later at best, and utterly
ephemeral at worst.

E-mail lists like this are more permanent, and with a proper archive become
a searchable reference that can be referred back to, so there's little need
to re-post the same information over and over.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 at 03:00, John Hoopes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

I love this list and information, I would suggest we move to Discord, no
cost, just start a thread and we can have channels for each subject,

Just a thought, will miss this if it goes,

J_Hoopes






On Saturday, July 11, 2026 at 10:31:06 AM PDT, Beth Silverman via EV <
[email protected]> wrote:





Dave, I had no idea you've been paying for this!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I would miss the list if it was gone, but I certainly understand that
things change and time marches on....

Beth Silverman
ex-Solectria




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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 07:16:50 +0200
From: "List Lackey" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] EV List future?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Find a couple of questions for you to please answer / discuss below.

About a week ago I got an unwelcome surprise - notice that the EV list's
hosting service will shut down discussion lists on the 22nd of this
month.

Good news: I've found a new host that seems committed to discussion lists
for
the longer term.

More good news: It would add an integrated archive and an interactive
web-
forum (BBS) to the list. That would make it more like Google Groups or
the
old Yahoo Groups, but without all the advertising and the privacy
concerns.

To be clear, the BBS would be optional.  You could still interact with
the
discussion list entirely via email, the way you always have.

As a bonus, the new host would cost me about half of what I've been
paying
for the last few years.

But ...

List traffic has been steadily declining since 2012 and the introduction
of
practical production EVs.  In the last 6 months we've had about 260
posts.
In 2010, we got almost that many messages per *week*.

That's probably because the EV list has always been mainly a place for EV
hobbyists.

Not many folks build their own EVs now.

Also, most of the production EVs have their own dedicated or
semi-dedicated
(usually commercial / ad-supported) online resources.

I suppose that there's EV discussion on social media, too.

So, finally, my questions to you:

Is the EV discussion list still useful to you?

Should I keep it going?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt


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