Even with lower traffic I like the list. I’d be happy to chip in.

Gary Krysztopik

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> On Jul 13, 2026, at 7:20 AM, Robert Johnston via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Please not Discord. While it is a great communication tool (and I moderate
> some very large discord communities), it is very much a sink for
> discoverability and archiving. Unlike forums (that persist), anything
> posted in a discord is hard to discover later at best, and utterly
> ephemeral at worst.
> 
> E-mail lists like this are more permanent, and with a proper archive become
> a searchable reference that can be referred back to, so there's little need
> to re-post the same information over and over.
> 
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 at 03:00, John Hoopes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I love this list and information, I would suggest we move to Discord, no
>> cost, just start a thread and we can have channels for each subject,
>> 
>> Just a thought, will miss this if it goes,
>> 
>> J_Hoopes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 11, 2026 at 10:31:06 AM PDT, Beth Silverman via EV <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave, I had no idea you've been paying for this!!
>> 
>> Thank you, thank you, thank you.
>> 
>> I would miss the list if it was gone, but I certainly understand that
>> things change and time marches on....
>> 
>> Beth Silverman
>> ex-Solectria
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 07:16:50 +0200
>>> From: "List Lackey" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [EVDL] EV List future?
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>> 
>>> Find a couple of questions for you to please answer / discuss below.
>>> 
>>> About a week ago I got an unwelcome surprise - notice that the EV list's
>>> hosting service will shut down discussion lists on the 22nd of this
>> month.
>>> 
>>> Good news: I've found a new host that seems committed to discussion lists
>>> for
>>> the longer term.
>>> 
>>> More good news: It would add an integrated archive and an interactive
>> web-
>>> forum (BBS) to the list. That would make it more like Google Groups or
>> the
>>> old Yahoo Groups, but without all the advertising and the privacy
>>> concerns.
>>> 
>>> To be clear, the BBS would be optional.  You could still interact with
>> the
>>> discussion list entirely via email, the way you always have.
>>> 
>>> As a bonus, the new host would cost me about half of what I've been
>> paying
>>> for the last few years.
>>> 
>>> But ...
>>> 
>>> List traffic has been steadily declining since 2012 and the introduction
>>> of
>>> practical production EVs.  In the last 6 months we've had about 260
>>> posts.
>>> In 2010, we got almost that many messages per *week*.
>>> 
>>> That's probably because the EV list has always been mainly a place for EV
>>> hobbyists.
>>> 
>>> Not many folks build their own EVs now.
>>> 
>>> Also, most of the production EVs have their own dedicated or
>>> semi-dedicated
>>> (usually commercial / ad-supported) online resources.
>>> 
>>> I suppose that there's EV discussion on social media, too.
>>> 
>>> So, finally, my questions to you:
>>> 
>>> Is the EV discussion list still useful to you?
>>> 
>>> Should I keep it going?
>>> 
>>> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>>> 
>>> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
>>> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt
>>> 
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