mmp, i heard same about "meeting under the trees" from south africans.

and lucas, you forgot one other important criteria... did humboldt's
practice include napping?  ...i.e. was he working too hard?

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On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:35 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
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> Maybe those of you gathering in Berlin can revisit some of the locations
> where this gathering of interdisciplinary break out groups was held!
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:31 PM Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting...what I see is a kindred spirit between Humboldt and Owen in
>> that both thought about doing meetings differently and drew on their
>> knowledge of the natural world to do so.
>>
>> Thanks for the link Rolf.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:09 AM Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <
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>>
>>> Thank you Lucas for the inspiring reference to Humboldt. I just looked
>>> for the speech (
>>> https://www.deutschestextarchiv.de/book/view/humboldt_rede_1828?p=1)
>>> and had a passage translated with DeepL:
>>>
>>> The ancient generation knew the value of the living word, the inspiring
>>> influence which high mastery exerts through its proximity, and the
>>> illuminating power of conversation when it passes unprepared, freely and
>>> gently at the same time, through the fabric of scientific opinions and
>>> doubts. Unveiling of the truth is unthinkable without divergence of
>>> opinions, because the truth is not recognized in its entire scope, at once,
>>> and by all at the same time.
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.06.2023 um 08:52 schrieb Lucas Cioffi via OSList <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Hi Bhav and everyone!
>>>
>>> I hope you are doing great, and thank you for posting the article by Tim
>>> O'Reilly.  I pasted in the relevant quote about the scientist Humboldt who
>>> created a conversational conference.
>>>
>>> Given the information available in the article, I can't come to the same
>>> conclusion of the author, that Humboldt's event format was the same as open
>>> space.  I think more info is needed to hear about whether people could
>>> propose topics, whether they could choose sessions, and whether they could
>>> move between sessions.  From the information available, it might be that
>>> Humboldt chose all the topics and assigned people to different discussions.
>>>
>>> Here is the relevant part of the article:
>>>
>>>> "Humboldt was revolutionizing the sciences. In September 1828 he
>>>> invited hundreds of scientists from across Germany and Europe to attend a
>>>> conference in Berlin. Unlike previous such meetings at which scientists had
>>>> endlessly presented papers about their own work, Humboldt put together a
>>>> very different programme. Rather than being talked at, he wanted the
>>>> scientists to talk with each other. There were convivial meals and social
>>>> outings such as concerts and excursions to the royal menagerie on the
>>>> Pfaueninsel in Potsdam. Meetings were held among botanical, zoological and
>>>> fossil collections as well as at the university and the botanical garden.
>>>> Humboldt encouraged scientists to gather in small groups and across
>>>> disciplines. He connected the visiting scientists on a more personal level,
>>>> ensuring that they forged friendships that would foster close networks. He
>>>> envisaged an interdisciplinary brotherhood of scientists who would exchange
>>>> and share knowledge. ‘Without a diversity of opinion, the discovery of
>>>> truth is impossible,’ he reminded them in his opening speech."
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to know more.
>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:16 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/true-inventor-unconference-tim-o-reilly/
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