Stephen,

Thanks for clarifying that point. I take it it was a misprint. I am new to
this list and am still trying to understand what you guys are talking about.
Forgive me if I pick on you but your interventions seem to me the most lucid
of the ones I have read thus far! I have two naive comments at this stage:

1) I am as puzzled with your suspicion that "all minds are quantum mechanical"
as I would perhaps be with the obverse suspicion that "all minds are classical
mechanical"! Both seem to me rather vaccuous statements since we don't
really yet have a theory, classical or quantum or whathaveyou , of what a
mind is or does. I don't mean an emprirical, or verifiable, or decidable
or merely speculative theory! I mean ANY theory. Please show me I
am wrong if you think otherwise.

2) I deduce from your web pages that you are curious about and sympathetic
of daring spaculations on these "frontier" matters. So am I. But you are
luckier
and abler than me if you understand Kitada's papers. It may just be that he
expresses himself so poorely in english that the ideas don't quite come
through.
He appears to believe in something like a "quantum origin of abstract concepts"

which is an interesting subject, at least to me. Maybe you can explain how
this comes out of his "internal time"! I fail to see the chain of reasoning...

Thanks,

-Joao

Stephen Paul King wrote:

> Dear Joao,
>
>     Forgive me if my writting gave you that opinion. I meant to imply that
> any mind, including that of a bat, is quantum mechanical and not classical
> in its nature. My ideas follow the implications of Hitoshi Kitada's theory
> of Local Time.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joao Leao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Stephen Paul King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Quantum Probability and Decision Theory
>
> > I am sorry but I have to ask: why would "minds" be quantum
> > mechanical but "bat minds" be classical  in your suspicions?
> > I am not sure I am being "batocentric" here but I can anticipate
> > a lot of bats waving their wings in disagreament...
> >
> > -Joao
> >
> >
> > Stephen Paul King wrote:
> >
> > > [SPK]
> > >
> > >     Yes. I strongly suspect that "minds" are quantum mechanical. My
> > > arguement is at this point very hand waving, but it seems to me that if
> > > minds are purely classical when it would not be difficult for us to
> imagine,
> > > i.e. compute, what it is like to "be a bat" or any other classical mind.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Joao Pedro Leao  :::  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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