Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Le 01-juil.-06, à 19:54, Brent Meeker a écrit :
>>Sure it is.  Just because something cannot be directly experienced 
>>doesn't rule it out of a
>>scienctific model: quarks can't be observed, but their effects can.
> OK, but we were discussing about theories. general relativity, as a 
> theory does not assume the existence of readers of "relativity 
> journal". The quantum theory *with collapse* is already less clear on 
> that ...
>>So I believe in other people's
>>first person experience because that is a good way to predict their 
> Except the same theory would predict the behavior of zombie. We are 
> arguing on a fundamental level. All what I argue for is that once you 
> *assume* comp, then there is no aristotelian primary matter, and 
> eventually physics is branch of number's bio/psych/theo/logy.

As I understand it, assuming comp is assuming that there are no zombies.

Brent Meeker

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