Obey the Bible! On Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 09:38:55 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 9:34:59 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 9:58 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *>>> but then won't the HUP fail to be satisfied?* > > > *>> I don't know about that but HUP fails to satisfy me because IHA. * > > > *> Never heard of the HUP, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle?* > > > *Yes of course I've heard of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, but > I've NEVER heard it referred to as "HUP".* > > > > *As for the Casimir Effect, it can be predicted classically, * > > > *BULLSHIT!! **Classical physics doesn't have zero-point energy or vacuum > fluctuations! Schrodinger's equation insists those things must exist while > classical physics insists they do not. Numerous experiments, including > observations of the Casimir effect, prove that Schrodinger's equation is > correct and classical physics is wrong. * > > *> so it proves nothing about virtual particles.* > > > *BULLSHIT!* > *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > > > The Casimir Effect can be predicted classically, as Van der Waals forces. > BTW, HUP is used frequently. I'm suprised you haven't noticed it. As for > virtual particles, they're "off shell", meaning they violate conservation > of energy. You're out on a limb to place any faith in their existence. AG > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect > > "The treatment of boundary conditions in these calculations is > controversial. In fact, "Casimir's original goal was to compute the van > der Waals force <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force> > between polarizable molecules > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipolar_polarization>" of the conductive > plates. Thus it can be interpreted without any reference to the zero-point > energy (vacuum energy) of quantum fields." 7ss > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/db3871b5-bf2a-4a18-b7fd-f97b26a7294an%40googlegroups.com.
