On 21-08-2025 16:35, John Clark wrote:
The problem is electricity, or rather the lack of it.

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I think everyone has lost or is soon going to lose by making massive investments in the current extremely inefficient systems. It's the same story with previous technological innovations all over again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfN7eFo5cbk&t=736s


Current LLMs are a dead end because reducing errors by a factor of 10 requires a factor of 10^20 more computational power:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjB6HDot1Uk

and we're already starting out from extremely energy inefficient systems. Note that the human brain runs on just 20 Watts. With current technology getting to a robot that has similar capabilities as a human would probably require a lot more than 20 MW. This does mean that a lot more technological innovation is opposable, so it is actually good news. But it is bad news for people who have bought into the current AI systems or have invested in AI companies. That's why I am short Nvidia, Palantir, Tesla etc. as these are massively overvalued companies.

Take e.g. Tesla's market cap of $1.1 T. This is for a large part just phantom. No financial institution that can afford to buy all the shares of Tesla and make it a private company would consider doing that. It's all good and well to trade Tesla stocks and they do that with a lot of leverage that is pumping up the price of the stocks and is causing tis enormous overvaluation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFQg-9b9EQ&t=1911s

And then you can wait until that leverage falls partially away due to liquidity drawn away from the stock market to do more important things that playing games on the stock market, like e.g. having to refinance debts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G1i0vstvTo&t=730s


And then the stock price of Tesla, Nvidia, Palantir etc. will slide down and it will become clear that the multi-trillion-dollar valuations where all phantom valuations. These companies were never worth that much, investors who bought into that were participating in a de-facto Ponzi.

Saibal


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