On Saturday, August 30, 2025 at 4:34:30 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 3:09 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> Do us all a big favor and cease your BS'ing. Those articles below I haven't read because they assert what I already knew; that two teams discovered the universe was accelerating in 1998. Where is the EVIDENCE in your claim above, that the rate of expansion was SLOWING from the time the galaxies formed, for about 9 billion years? I don't recall any of your posts where you stated or proved that. AG * *The following quote is from Expansion of the universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe?utm_source=chatgpt.com> :* *"The very earliest expansion, called inflation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)> saw the universe suddenly expand by a factor of at least 1026 in every direction about 10−32 of a second after the Big Bang. Cosmic expansion subsequently decelerated to much slower rates, until around 9.8 billion years after the Big Bang (4 billion years ago) it began to gradually * *expand more quickly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe>, and is still doing so." * *The following quote is from** Accelerating expansion of the universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe>:* *"The accelerated expansion of the universe is thought to have begun since the universe entered its dark-energy-dominated era <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-energy-dominated_era> roughly 5 billion years ago"* *I never disputed that conclusion; only yours, that it implies that after the galaxies formed, the universe was expanding very slowly. Sure, after that the expansion slowed due to gravity, but the discovery of the accelerated expansion says NOTHING about the much earlier rate of expansion. AG * *> Dark Energy may or may not exist,* *>Dark energy is the name we have given to whatever is accelerating the universe, we had to call it something. The universe is definitely accelerating so Dark Energy, whatever it is, definitely exists. * * >>> **if it does and is responsible for the speeding up, it doesn't imply the galaxies were receding from each other slowly before DE speeded the expansion.* *>>Huh? If you make a thing move faster then you make it move faster. And the great thing about tautologies is that they are ALWAYS true. * *>Obviously, you don't understand what I wrote,* *True, but that's not the big question. Do you understand what you wrote? * *> and it's certainly not a tautology. AG * *If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck. * *Cease with the riddles and say explicitly what you mean. I never posted a tautology! AG * * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* iad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/efbd84a5-d937-4552-9410-fc9647124088n%40googlegroups.com.
