On Saturday, August 30, 2025 at 5:20:04 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 6:56 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *The following quote is from Expansion of the universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe?utm_source=chatgpt.com> :* *"The very earliest expansion, called inflation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)> saw the universe suddenly expand by a factor of at least 1026 in every direction about 10−32 of a second after the Big Bang. Cosmic expansion subsequently decelerated to much slower rates, until around 9.8 billion years after the Big Bang (4 billion years ago) it began to gradually **expand more quickly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe>, and is still doing so." * *The following quote is from** Accelerating expansion of the universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe>:* *"The accelerated expansion of the universe is thought to have begun since the universe entered its dark-energy-dominated era <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-energy-dominated_era> roughly 5 billion years ago"* *> I never disputed that conclusion; only yours, that it implies that after the galaxies formed, the universe was expanding very slowly.* *Expanding "very slowly" compared with the expansion of the universe during inflation certainly. I will now make a statement that you dispute that I am nevertheless absolutely certain is true: * *Today galaxies are expanding faster than they were before galaxies started expanding faster. * *The reason I would be willing to bet my life on the above statement being true is because all tautologies are true.* *What tautology are you referring to? You really need to get your act together and cease with your foolish accusations. AG* *> Sure, after that the expansion slowed due to gravity, but the discovery of the accelerated expansion says NOTHING about the much earlier rate of expansion. AG * *Yet more evidence that you don't read what I write, not even the parts that I underline. * *More mind-reading by the a'hole-in-chief. AG * *"Cosmic expansion subsequently decelerated to much slower rates, until around 9.8 billion years after the Big Bang (4 billion years ago) it began to gradually **expand more quickly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe>, and is still doing so." * *Decelerated from what? That's the issue, in case you can't remember. Sure, I read it, several times in fact, but I see no EVIDENCE for the conclusion you've fallen in love with; that in the very early universe, the rate of expansion was very low. Do you know the difference between FACT and CONJECTURE? AG * * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* emq -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/fcc26349-0043-4084-b5ce-f311f6dd688cn%40googlegroups.com.
