Brent Meeker wrote:
George Levy wrote:
  
Brent Meeker wrote:


    
That brings us back to Descartes "I think therefore I am"; which Russell 
pointed out was an unsupported inference. 


      
IMHO everything hinges on "I think." "I think" MUST BE THE STARTING 
POINT - for any conscious observer THERE IS NO OTHER OBSERVABLE STARTING 
POINT!
    

Are you disputing Russell's point that "I" is a construct and "thinking" is 
all you have without inference?

  
Yes. I am disputing what Russell said: "I think" IS THE ONE AND ONLY STARTING POINT for any conscious thought process. It is both an observation and an axiom. Developing the concept of "I think" in a formal mathematical fashion as Bruno is attempting to do is IMO the right way to proceed. I also believe that "I think" leads to a relative (or relativistic) TOE - probably a very extreme view.

George

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