On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 4:35 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
*>>Einstein never used language to explain how he got his wonderful ideas >> because he couldn't and he couldn't because language was not how we got >> those ideas in the first place. So there must have been more to Einstein's >> mind than just the ability to use language. So his mind was not "a single >> unified system" as you claimed. * > > > *>First, I didn't claim that. You're mixing my posts with those of my > son, Barrett.* > *Sorry. * > *> And in any case "a single unified system" doesn't necessarily imply > that everything in the system is explicable in language. For example a > computer translator from English to German is a single unified system...but > it can't explain what it's circuitry is. * > *But when you were born you couldn't explain how the neurons in your brain worked, or even had knowledge that you had a brain, or neurons, or that they had anything to do with thinking. A LLM can't give a good explanation as to how it works either, nobody can, so how are you fundamentally different from a computer? * > *> A system may be unified only in terms of having the same ends.* > *I'm unclear what you mean by that. * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* b-d > > > *So there's no reason to expect or to demand that an AI be a large > language model and nothing else. * > > *> Have you read the book that describes Einstein's patented ideas. He >> patented quite a few inventions and in some cases, with the help of an >> engineering partner, tried to make them into products. For example he >> patented an airfoil. The only one that worked was a gas refrigerator. >> Even geniuses don't always have good ideas.* >> > > *Einstein had nearly 50 patents, believe it or not he even got a patent > for a new type of elastic vest, it looked like this: * > > [image: 8EBF4576-5257-4FC6-B629-890F7FAC89BC.jpeg] > *As you mentioned Einstein is better known for inventing two different > types of refrigerators, both of them worked but neither of them were very > practical. Einstein is even better known for doing some other stuff. * > > > *That Time Albert Einstein Decided to Try to Revolutionize Keeping Food > Cold <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRVDpLJgGQ> * > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv30EP0G-k%3DarNzyCCDaYy2QFpx_%3DBEKX6uhcHVRs%3DXoZg%40mail.gmail.com.
