Le 22-sept.-06, à 08:16, Russell Standish a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 04:16:53PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Russell, when you say "nothing external exist", do you mean "nothing
>> primitively material" exist, or do you mean there is no independent
>> reality at all, not even an immaterial one? (I ordered your book but
>> am still waiting :)
> The latter.
I am not sure this makes sense for me.
> To be more precise, I identify Nothing with
> undifferentiated form, a bit like the Chaos of the ancient Greeks.
OK but that is a big "Nothing".
> be even more precise, I identify it with the zero information object,
> the set of all strings.
That is bigger and bigger. This confirms my feeling that we should use
the axiomatic method, because terminology is confusing.
> Any person's experience is obtained by
> differentiating - selecting something from that "nothing".
> The relationship between this zero information object, and
> arithmetical platonia is a bit unclear, but I would say that anything
> constructible (Sigma_1) must be extractable from the zero information
OK then. But this means you are an arithmetical realist, and that an
external "reality" exist, for example your strings, or your set of
strings, and I am still more confused by your saying there is not even
an immaterial external reality, which would be solipsism with a
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