James N Rose wrote: > > > Brent Meeker wrote: > >> If consciousness is the creation of an inner narrative >> to be stored in long-term memory then there are levels >> of consciousness. The amoeba forms no memories and so >> is not conscious at all. A dog forms memories and even >> has some understanding of symbols (gestures, words) and >> so is conscious. In between there are various degress >> of consciousness corresponding to different complexity >> and scope of learning. > > That notion may fit comfortably with your presumptive > ideas about 'memory' -- computer stored, special-neuron > stored, and similar. But the universe IS ITSELF 'memory > storage' from the start. Operational rules of performance > -- the laws of nature, so to speak -- are 'memory', and > inform EVERY organization of action-appropriateness. Its > 'memory' of the longest-term kind actually.
Assuming there is no inherent randomness. Even in MWI of QM, you can't recover the past from the present, except in a coarse-grained approximation. So you may say the universe has 'memory' and even 'is conscious' but that's stretching the common meaning of the words beyond recognition. > > Amoebic behavior embodies more than stimulus-response > actions - consistent with organismic plan 'must eat'; > but less than your criterial state of sentient awareness > - consistent with 'plan dynamics/behaviors'. > > The rut that science is in, is presumption that 'our sentience > is 'the only' sentience form' and is the gold standard for > any/all aware-behavior activity. > > Sentience better fits a model of spectrum and degrees; rather > than not-extant / suddenly-extant. I thought I said that. Brent Meeker --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
