> On Sep 15, 12:56 am, "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2008/9/14  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Yudkowsky asks:
>>> "What experimental observations would you expect to make, if you found
>>> yourself in such a universe?" (where reductionism is false)
>>> But we *are* in just such as universe!
>> Perhaps I could ask the opposite question: what if reductionism were
>> suddenly made true? Which parts of the universe would stop functioning
>> or function differently?
>> --
>> Stathis Papaioannou
> I think there would no longer be conscious observers for starters.  If
> reductionism were true it would mean that mathematical truth would be
> entirely algorithmic.  No insight would be required, so there would be
> no place for consciousness.  All the delusions of Yudkowsky and co
> would be true... reasoning would be entirely reducible to Bayesian
> Inductuion, Intelligence would be entirely reducible to Optimization,
> Consciousness wouldn't be needed etc etc etc.

But the question is whether there would be any *functional* difference.

Brent Meeker

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