Jack, Wei Dai, > machines are invented, there will be a much greater selection pressure > towards U=M*Q. But given that U=Q is closer to the reality today, I'm not > sure what good it would do to "taking a stand against QS/QI".
To "translate": U=M*Q is 3rd person POV (hypothetical; viewed from outside platonia/spacetime worm/insert fav. metaphysics) U=Q is 1st POV (a cognitive agent reasoning if he/she/it will have next experience) Again, it seems that QI is conceded, and an emotional argument made to care for all successors. I see no contradiction, and no refutation or whatever of QI. >The real key point at which the QS fallacy appears seems to be that >some people find it inconcievable that they will not have a future. Having only a finite number of successor moments is standard materialist assumption. It is computationalism which seems to suggest otherwise. Inconceivability does not enter the picture. >Thus, they assume that they will survive and only need to take into >account effective probabilities that are conditional on survival. That is correct, as not surviving is not an experience. As long as a successor with "your" memories of previous moments exists, you survive. > 5) The groggy mornings >If he were immortal, then his expected age would diverge, and the >‘chance’ that his age would be normal is 0%. Ok, this is ASSA reasoning. But it does not follow with RSSA. So, it is just the old argument that with ASSA you don't have immortality but with RSSA you do? A "refutation" of QI would also require refuting it under RSSA, otherwise you simply have claim _if_ ASSA _then_ no QI, which does not seem disputed. As written in a previous post, I think an RSSA-reasoner should also care for all his successors, and thus not engage in a QS-experiment or stuff like that. Cheers, Günther --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---