> On May 4, 6:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/5/4 <daddycay...@msn.com>:
>> > I agree that religion, and a lot of other stuff, produces a lot of
>> > fake certainty. Not good. So that implies that atheism is the way to
>> > go?
>> > But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human
>> > person like us could relate to him/her as a person, then that would
>> > result in expanding our consciousness?
>> Perhaps. But saying that something would be nice doesn't have any any
>> bearing whatsoever on whether it is so.
>> Stathis Papaioannou
> The purpose of my questions was to question the suggested advantage of
> using atheism as the [preferred] fixed point from which to view the
> universe [by a person]. As part of the process of calling Kim's
> suggestion into question, I'm suggesting the the consideration of the
> possibility that the fact that we are persons is more profound than
> simply being inescapable, but is fundamental.
That we are persons, conscious, have feelings is an obvious truth and
an important truth, and maybe even a fundamental truth. But I don't
see how that leads to the idea of big, supernatural person. This is
the same sort of thinking that led more primitive people to the idea
of a sky god, or a fertility god, or a god for whatever else they
(quite legitimately) considered profound and important.
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
For more options, visit this group at