Good to see you back - I wish you better health in 2011.
On 22 January 2011 13:19, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> (Including Stephens initiation of course).
> After some time spent enjoying 2 heart attacks in 2010 I returned to
> the computer and found similar discussions to the earlier ones.
> Maybe the words changed, references, too, conclusions are more
> sophisticated (?). SOME new members, as well
> (Please, give me credit for all those poisons the medics stuffed me
> withp impeding my brain and clarity of mind, if
> I ever had any such thing.
> What I see here is a Colin-position pointing to 'theoretical
> justification of the validity of math-statements' and Bruno's position
> on Bruno's position (comp included, valid, or not). Hard to argue
> because all the sophistication is based on the present status of our
> limited ignorance and unlimited explanatory breadth of Colin's
> mini-solipsism (i.e. the part of the world we so far got a glimpse
> Our sciences dwell within and reach out in their conclusions to those
> unknowables we 'imagine' (calculate?) from that partial view of the so
> far experienced (and explained by the limited ways). Such is our
> 'scientific' view and I think none of us can be exempt to that.
> We think what we think we know. We conclude within.
> By such limited tools humanity established an incredible technology
> and descriptions galore to explain it to ignorants within the
> ignorance. Physics, engineering, bio, psych, etc. etc. And a
> mathematics - so fundamental in Bruno's words(?) about numbers.
> What we see is a complex interlacing of not always discernible items
> allowing more to be involved.
> Upon such views humanity could not have established its 'scientific'
> (technological) results, but being anchored into it may interfere
> with further understanding of the unknown. Of course we cannot think
> beyond our mind-contents/function limited as it may be.
> (My fundamentals among others: Colin and Robert Rosen).
> What the WORLD is, if it exists (what does that mean?) what we call a
> "universe" or "existence" is hazy. No outside view.
> With best wishes to 2011 and beyond
> John Mikes
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