John Good to see you back - I wish you better health in 2011.
David On 22 January 2011 13:19, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > (Including Stephens initiation of course). > After some time spent enjoying 2 heart attacks in 2010 I returned to > the computer and found similar discussions to the earlier ones. > Maybe the words changed, references, too, conclusions are more > sophisticated (?). SOME new members, as well > (Please, give me credit for all those poisons the medics stuffed me > withp impeding my brain and clarity of mind, if > I ever had any such thing. > What I see here is a Colin-position pointing to 'theoretical > justification of the validity of math-statements' and Bruno's position > based > on Bruno's position (comp included, valid, or not). Hard to argue > because all the sophistication is based on the present status of our > limited ignorance and unlimited explanatory breadth of Colin's > mini-solipsism (i.e. the part of the world we so far got a glimpse > of). > Our sciences dwell within and reach out in their conclusions to those > unknowables we 'imagine' (calculate?) from that partial view of the so > far experienced (and explained by the limited ways). Such is our > 'scientific' view and I think none of us can be exempt to that. > We think what we think we know. We conclude within. > > By such limited tools humanity established an incredible technology > and descriptions galore to explain it to ignorants within the > ignorance. Physics, engineering, bio, psych, etc. etc. And a > mathematics - so fundamental in Bruno's words(?) about numbers. > What we see is a complex interlacing of not always discernible items > allowing more to be involved. > Upon such views humanity could not have established its 'scientific' > (technological) results, but being anchored into it may interfere > with further understanding of the unknown. Of course we cannot think > beyond our mind-contents/function limited as it may be. > (My fundamentals among others: Colin and Robert Rosen). > > What the WORLD is, if it exists (what does that mean?) what we call a > "universe" or "existence" is hazy. No outside view. > > With best wishes to 2011 and beyond > > John Mikes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

