On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with Craig, although the way he presents it might seems a bit
> uncomputationalist, (if I can say(*)).
>
> Thoughts act on matter all the time. It is a selection of histories + a
> sharing. Like when a sculptor isolates an art form from a rock, and then
> send it in a museum. If mind did not act on matter, we would not have been
> able to fly to the moon, and I am not sure even birds could fly. It asks for
> relative works and time, and numerous deep computations.
>
> When you prepare coffee, mind acts on matter. When you drink coffee, matter
> acts on mind. No problem here (with comp).
>
> And we can learn to control computer at a distance, but there is no reason
> to suppose that computers can't do that.

Mind acts on matter in a manner of speaking, but matter will not do
anything that cannot be explained in terms of the underlying physics.
An alien scientist could give a complete description of why humans
behave as they do and make a computational model that accurately
simulates human behaviour while remaining ignorant about human
consciousness. But the alien could not do this if he were ignorant
about protein chemistry, for example.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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