Bruno,
I confess to ignorance (not the elegant agnosticism) towards the UM
('you'?).
Are you sure you "know" who you (the UM=you) are?
>From your words it looks to me as a "super-dooper" Occam razor, cutting out
lots of details and concentrates on the 'essence'? (Those "details" however
contribute to the overall complexity - so essential in my personal views).Consequence: NOW I have less faith in the UM and feel it (her?) closer to the conventional sciences - the current level of our getting (mentally) smarter. Sorry I stuck my nose into something I don't understand - but that's human. I fancied the UM as something above all of us and our knowble world. JM On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > John, > > On 28 Apr 2012, at 02:49, John Mikes wrote: > > Evgenii: > are you sure we 'know' the base-line of AI? is (human) mentality > discovered in all its details? is it possible to program ALL details into a > machine? > We seem to be restricted to our insufficient knowledge of the "so far". > All we can artificialize is that sofarness of (human) intelligence. (I > emphasize *HUMAN *because that's the one we came closest to. Bruno's > Universal Machine may know more, but we don't know the Universal Machine. > > > The universal machine know less, and that is why it is interesting to > listen to her. She has far less prejudices. > > I am not sure what you mean by "we don't know the universal machine". It > seems we know her pretty well, even if we often loss ourselves in the many > particulars, and that we have to be vigilant not becoming ourself only a > particular machine in a higher organism. > We are universal machine, before being humans. Of course those who want to > control us dislike very much the idea, for obvious reasons. > > Bruno > > > > JM > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Hmmm. An organization consisting of a CEO, an accountant, and a finance >> guy that needs lots of money to develop human level AI. >> >> Brent >> >> On 4/27/2012 11:32 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: >> >>> A link from my discussion on Linkedin >>> >>> http://www.mindconstruct.com/ >>> >>> "MIND|CONSTRUCT is developing a 'strong-AI engine', a so called AI-mind, >>> that can be used in (human-like) robotics, healthcare, aerospace sciences >>> and every other area where 'conscious' man-machine interaction is of any >>> importance. >>> >>> The MIND|CONSTRUCT organization is the culmination of many years in >>> AI-research and the so called 'hard-problems', and the application of >>> elaborate experience in knowledge-management, for the design and >>> development of a 'strong-AI engine'." >>> >>> Evgenii >>> >>> P.S. This is the link to the discussion but I guess you need to have the >>> Linkedin account and subscribe to the group >>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/-**gay7jh-h17e0kop-6q/vaq/** >>> 105949056/134407/77220668/<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-gay7jh-h17e0kop-6q/vaq/105949056/134407/77220668/> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >> . >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
