Bruno: Doesn't it emerge in this respect "WHAT truth?" or rather "WHOSE truth?" is there an accepted authority to verify an "absolute" truth judgeable from a different belief system?
JohnM On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 23 Jun 2012, at 09:47, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > > On 22.06.2012 08:03 Stephen P. King said the following: >> >>> On 6/22/2012 1:50 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote: >>> >>>> I have many questions. >>>> >>>> One is "what if truth were malleable?" -- >>>> >>> HI Brian, >>> >>> If it was malleable, how would we detect the modifications? If our >>> "standards" of truth varied, how could we tell? This reminds me of >>> the debate between Leibniz and Newton regarding the notion of >>> absolute space. >>> >>> >> If one assumes the correspondence theory of truth, then the question >> would be if a reality were malleable. >> > > > > Right. Which leads to the question; what does Brian mean by "truth is > malleable"? > > Would this entail that arithmetical truth is malleable? What would it mean > that the truth of "17 is prime" is malleable. It looks like we need a more > solid truth than arithmetic in which we can make sense of the malleability > of the truth in arithmetic, but I cannot see anything more solid than > elementary arithmetic. > > Some truth can be malleable in some operational sense, but this will be > only metaphorical. For example the "truth" that cannabis is far more safe > than alcohol, appears to be quite malleable, but this is just because > special interest exploits the lack of education in logic. People driven by > power are used to mistreat truth, but it is just errors or lies. I guess > Brian's question is more metaphysical, but then in which non malleable > context can we make sense of metaphysically malleable truth? Perhaps Brian > should elaborate on what he means by "truth is malleable"? It seems to me > that such an idea is similar to complete relativism, which defeats itself > by not allowing that very idea to be relativized. > > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~**marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/> > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<firstname.lastname@example.org> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe@ > **googlegroups.com <everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.