On 22 Oct 2012, at 20:13, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 10/22/2012 2:38 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:2012/10/22 Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:38:46PM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote: > Hi Rusell, > > How does Schmidhuber consider the physicality of resources? > > -- > Onward! > > StephenNo. The concept doesn't enter consideration. What he considers isthatthe Great Programmer has finite (or perhaps bounded resources), which gives an additional boost to algorithms that run efficiently.thatÂ´s the problem that I insist, has a natural solutionconsidering the computational needs of living beings under naturalselection, without resorting to a everithing-theory of realitybased of a UD algorithm, like the Schmidhuber one.--Dear Alberto,My suspicion is that there does not exist a single globalcomputation of the behavior of living (or other) beings and that"natural selection" is a local computation between each being andits environment. We end up with a model where there are manycomputations occurring concurrently and there is no singlecomputation that can dovetail all of them together such that apicture of the universe can be considered as a single simulationrunning on a single computer except for a very trivial case (wherethe total universe is in a bound state and at maximum equilibrium).

`I agree. But a UD, or just arithmetic define a superstructure`

`containing this, and consciousness, or first person, is what will`

`select it. This explains why the world will look computational, and`

`still never be entirely computational. And indeed, we cannot simulate`

`with a computer even just a quantum bit observation, without`

`simulating the observer looking at that qubit.`

`Note that this does NOT make QM, nor the comp-physics violating Church`

`thesis, at least assuming comp, as we can simulate exactly a qubit`

`behavior coupled to an observer (but we have to include the observer`

`in the simulation).`

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