On Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:03:18 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
> On 11/1/2012 8:19 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > You have already explained it over and over. You aren't listening to me. 
> I understand 
> > every bit of your argument. It is my argument that you don't understand. 
> I used to 
> > believe what you believe. I know better now. 
> The question is how do you know this.  All I've seen are assertions about 
> what computers 
> will never be able to do - which is not evidence for much of anything. 

I don't know it, I understand it. My understanding could be incorrect, but 
I have seen no reason to suspect that so far. My purpose is not to make 
assertions about what computers will never be able to do, it is to present 
a framework for the organization of consciousness in the universe. The fact 
that computers thus far are no more sentient than other machines (something 
which should be and would be obvious to anyone not enthralled with science 
fiction religiosity about AI) makes sense in my framework, given that 
qualities of participation and perception accumulate through experience 
itself and cannot be imported from a completely foreign context. My model 
suggests that most physical qualities can only be experienced first hand 
from the inside out, so that a device built entirely on exterior qualities 
(positions in space) has no chance of accidentally reproducing an 
interiority which has developed longitudinally through time as sense 


> Brent 
> > You have nothing to teach me. Your choices are to listen, not to listen, 
> or bang your 
> > head against the wall telling me what I already know. 

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