Hi Telmo Menezes Good point. The answer is the same source that the universe came from.
----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-20, 10:37:56 Subject: Re: Does energy obey the laws of materialism ? Hi Roger, I would say the opposite - energy not being conserved would pose a harder challenge to materialism, because then you'd have to ask where it comes from and where it goes. On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: Does energy obey the laws of materialism ? ? Energy?resents us with an argument against materialism, (or at least materialism as I understand it) since?s conserved, regardess of form or ?hysical location. Thus the electrical energy created in a generating station at one location can be transported down a copper wire to a house miles away. It will seem to lose some value due to the heating by resistance in the wire, but that is merely a conversion of electrical to heat energy and the total is maintained. But all of this occurs over a range of locations, not in a single body of material. ? Similarly in a pendulum clock, there is a continual conversion of energy from potential energy to kinetic energy and back again, but some nonphysical marker outside of spacetime keeps the total constant. ? Etc. ? I would say that the nonphysical marker outside of the physical world is mental energy,?r the idea of energy,?nd it is this (a nonphysical idea rather than a physical quantity)?hat is actually maintained. Leibniz in his Idealism gives a similar?ccount?o the transfer of "momentum" between colliding bodies, maintaining, quite reasonably,?hat momentum is an idea rather than a thing.? In other words, there is no such physical thing as momentum, only the idea of momentum. ? ? ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Cass Silva Receiver: mindbr...@yahoogroups.com Time: 2013-01-19, 17:58:57 Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] News: Physicists Find Evidence ThatTheUniverseIsA 'Giant Brain' ? non-material Cass From: Dan Ghiocel <d...@ghiocel.com> To: mindbr...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] News: Physicists Find Evidence That TheUniverseIsA 'Giant Brain' ? Are you saying that energy is non physical? Dan G On 1/18/2013 5:06 PM, Cass Silva wrote: ? Either way it is still non physical - it is energy and remains energy. Cass <snip> __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (14) Recent Activity: New Members 1 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
