Hi Stephen P. King and Kim,

Indeed, it's very impractical, as are most of jesus' words. They are
the basic wishes, however, of the Kingdom of Heaven (God),
and it is our human struggle to try to bring these actions
to the kingdom of Earth. That is man's purpose, according
to Christian beliefs. As the Lord's prayer says, "....thy kingdom come...."

We cannot do this on our own, but faith, given to us  by God
for such a purpose, makes it at least possible. As Luther said,
faith enables everything good.


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From: Stephen P. King 
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Time: 2013-01-30, 00:01:39
Subject: Re: Hateful


On 1/29/2013 11:13 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
> This is a pretty well-worn, oft-used, school prayer. Given it is recited or 
> sung by the entire student body and staff at a good many schools and other 
> institutions you would have to assume that it's all fundamentally good stuff.
>
>
>
> Teach us, good Lord, to serve thee as thou deserves;
> to give and not to count the cost;
> to fight and not to heed the wounds;
> to till, and not to seek for rest;
> to labour, and not to ask for any reward,
> save that of knowing we do thy will.
>
>
> Amen.
>
>
> But it's all incredibly bad advice, really - don't you think? Why do people 
> assume God wants Earthlings to be such a bunch of try-hards?
> I hate this prayer. It advertises values that no one can live up to and no 
> one need live up to. Surely we can invent a better, less servile, less 
> obsequious, less cringing, less Gollum-like take on what we think God wants 
> for us.
>
> All this servility, this grovelling at the feet of somebody. Is God really 
> into all that? I don't believe it.
>
>
>
> Kim Jones
>
>


     Saint Ignatius' prayer, no? Common for those in Jesuit schools. I 
never hear it in my days of Christian school... Many people live well 
with such ideas in their heads, why the licentious talk of them?

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Stephen


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