On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > The Mars Rover is controlled from Earth. > That's hardly a bottom-up control > See George Ellis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.2275.pdf
Hi Richard, Roger's claim was that "Materialistic science and programming has no such feature [downward control]". The Mars Rover clearly does, because there is a communication delay of at least 4 minutes to Mars, so it must be able to do things by itself. > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> wrote: >> > A Leibnizian view on why bottom up programing cannot work for the brain >> > >> > 1. In order for the brain to control or govern >> > there must be a single governor >> >> Why? >> >> > 2. The single governor must be the single most dominant element in the >> > system >> > and must control downward, not upward >> >> Why? >> >> > 3. Materialistic science and programming has no such feature. >> >> The Mars Rover begs to disagree. >> >> Telmo. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >> > See my Leibniz site at >> > http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
