On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Mars Rover is controlled from Earth. > That's hardly a bottom-up control > See George Ellis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.2275.pdf
Hi Richard, Roger's claim was that "Materialistic science and programming has no such feature [downward control]". The Mars Rover clearly does, because there is a communication delay of at least 4 minutes to Mars, so it must be able to do things by itself. > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> > A Leibnizian view on why bottom up programing cannot work for the brain >> > >> > 1. In order for the brain to control or govern >> > there must be a single governor >> >> Why? >> >> > 2. The single governor must be the single most dominant element in the >> > system >> > and must control downward, not upward >> >> Why? >> >> > 3. Materialistic science and programming has no such feature. >> >> The Mars Rover begs to disagree. >> >> Telmo. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >> > See my Leibniz site at >> > http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
