Likewise the self-driving cars on earth and consciousness on the brain.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Mars Rover is controlled from Earth. > > That's hardly a bottom-up control > > See George Ellis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.2275.pdf > > Hi Richard, > > Roger's claim was that "Materialistic science and programming has no > such feature [downward control]". The Mars Rover clearly does, because > there is a communication delay of at least 4 minutes to Mars, so it > must be able to do things by itself. > > > > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > A Leibnizian view on why bottom up programing cannot work for the > brain > >> > > >> > 1. In order for the brain to control or govern > >> > there must be a single governor > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> > 2. The single governor must be the single most dominant element in the > >> > system > >> > and must control downward, not upward > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> > 3. Materialistic science and programming has no such feature. > >> > >> The Mars Rover begs to disagree. > >> > >> Telmo. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > >> > See my Leibniz site at > >> > http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Everything List" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an > >> > email to [email protected]. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
