On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > Likewise the self-driving cars on earth
Yes. > and consciousness on the brain. Maybe :) > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The Mars Rover is controlled from Earth. >> > That's hardly a bottom-up control >> > See George Ellis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.2275.pdf >> >> Hi Richard, >> >> Roger's claim was that "Materialistic science and programming has no >> such feature [downward control]". The Mars Rover clearly does, because >> there is a communication delay of at least 4 minutes to Mars, so it >> must be able to do things by itself. >> >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > A Leibnizian view on why bottom up programing cannot work for the >> >> > brain >> >> > >> >> > 1. In order for the brain to control or govern >> >> > there must be a single governor >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> > 2. The single governor must be the single most dominant element in >> >> > the >> >> > system >> >> > and must control downward, not upward >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> > 3. Materialistic science and programming has no such feature. >> >> >> >> The Mars Rover begs to disagree. >> >> >> >> Telmo. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >> >> > See my Leibniz site at >> >> > http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > "Everything List" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >> > send >> >> > an >> >> > email to [email protected]. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected]. >> >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Everything List" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
