On Sunday, September 8, 2013 4:42:02 PM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
> Sent from my iPad
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013  chris peck <chris_...@hotmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
> *>> "Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical 
>>> research program".*
>> > I don't have any problem with Popper's comments here. I see no reason 
>> whatsoever for 'Popper fans or fans of philosophers of science' to be 
>> concerned in the slightest.
> On 08.09.2013, at 22:28, John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
> Yes I know, fans of Popper are not concerned in the slightest with their 
> hero making that moronic statement, and Popper called himself a 
> philosopher; and that is exactly how philosophy gets a bad name.
> > People misunderstand Popper here.
> Apparently even Popper misunderstood Popper because, to his credit, he 
> admitted he was wrong about Darwin; most other philosophers would rather 
> eat ground glass than admit they were wrong. It's just a pity that it took 
> this great philosopher of science 119 years after the publication of "The 
> Origin Of Species" to figure out that Darwin was a scientist. I guess 
> philosophers are just slow learners
> > Furthermore, in regarding natural selection as untestable he followed in 
>> the footsteps of many Darwinists. 
> Should a good philosopher be following in somebody's footsteps or should 
> he tell him he's going in the wrong direction?
> > It was quite common to think that the concept of 'survival of the 
>> fittest' involved circular reasoning and was therefore tautological. ie.  
>> 'fittest' is defined as 'those that survive' and so 'survival of the 
>> fittest' amounts to saying 'the survivors survive'. 
> Darwin gave a new meaning to the word, "fittest" means passing on more 
> genes that endure (survive) to the next generation than somebody who is 
> less fit.
> Darwin knew nothing about genes.

Yes, and evolutionary fitness has nothing do with the quantity of winning 
genes - this is a Eugenicist misinterpretation of evolution. Fitness is 
about the circumstantial appropriateness of mutations, not about hereditary 
supremacy. A sudden climate change makes entire classes of 'more fit' genes 
'less fit' over night. Evolution is not a race or striving for success 
through superior engineering - that is utter horseshit.


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