Bruno wrote: "of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some "I", even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and 'consciousness'! I arrived at the latter as "response to relations" - not requiring human (animal?) mentality at all. A universe can be conscious if it responds to relations. It may be semantical as are all meanings. JM
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 21 Sep 2013, at 22:59, meekerdb wrote: > > On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room." > which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, > "I had a conscious thought." that too is dubitable. > > > We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not "I was conscious", but > "I am conscious". > > > Without the assumption of "I". > > > Of Who? > > Conscious applies to person, and they all have some "I", even if they > cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. > > Bruno > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

