Bruno wrote: "of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some "I", even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and 'consciousness'! I arrived at the latter as "response to relations" - not requiring human (animal?) mentality at all. A universe can be conscious if it responds to relations. It may be semantical as are all meanings. JM
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 21 Sep 2013, at 22:59, meekerdb wrote: > > On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room." > which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, > "I had a conscious thought." that too is dubitable. > > > We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not "I was conscious", but > "I am conscious". > > > Without the assumption of "I". > > > Of Who? > > Conscious applies to person, and they all have some "I", even if they > cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. > > Bruno > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
