Bruno wrote: "of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some
"I", even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways.
Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life':
'conscious' and 'consciousness'! I arrived at the latter as "response to
relations" - not requiring human (animal?) mentality at all.
A universe can be conscious if it responds to relations.
It may be semantical as are all meanings.
JM


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 21 Sep 2013, at 22:59, meekerdb wrote:
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>  On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>  The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room."
> which is both dubitable and almost certainly false.  And if the thought is,
> "I had a conscious thought." that too is dubitable.
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>  We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not "I was conscious", but
> "I am conscious".
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> Without the assumption of "I".
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> Of Who?
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> Conscious applies to person, and they all have some "I", even if they
> cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways.
>
> Bruno
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> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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