The most interesting and less known work of Popper is the foundation of
evolutionary epistemology

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-evolutionary/

which is much more ambitious that falsacionism and mere demarcation and is
far far more interesting.


2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>

> Hi Chris,
>
>
> On 20 Sep 2013, at 02:45, chris peck wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi John
>
> *>>It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a idea isn't getting
> anywhere, that is to say if it doesn't produce new interesting ideas, your
> time would be better spent doing something else. *
>
> Whats with this idea that the only good ideas are ones it would take a
> genius to realize? The best ideas are ones kids can understand. Your idol
> Feynmann would have put you over his lap and spanked you for saying that.
> Few people had greater contempt for 'ideas' only 'geniuses' could
> understand.
>
> Anyway, its at the core of Popper's view that theories should aim to be
> productive in making falsifiable predictions and you are only regurgitating
> that view because rightly or wrongly, via Popper, it has seeped into our
> culture's conception of what good science is. 150 years ago, you wouldn't
> have really cared. You would have been happy had scientists worked purely
> inductively. Most likely you'ld have swallowed psychoanalysis hook line and
> sinker without even considering whether it could be falsified.
>
>
>
> OK. I think (like Clark) that all good scientists are Popperian (or
> locally so) since Pythagorus and much before.
> Then Popper made the discovery that this is the case, normally, in those
> domain qualified as scientific. As such I think (unlike Clark) that Popper
> put his finger on something important.
>
> Alas, "Popperianity" has not been allowed in the human science, in *some*
> type of philosophy, and in theology, since some times.
>
> Neoplatonist theologians were more Popperian than most theologians' today,
> with many exception of course like Trouillard, Valadier and Torrance, and
> even Alan Watts, I think.
>
> Then, a friend just sent me a paper showing that machines just have
> succeeded in verifying Gödel's proof of the existence of God.
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.4526
>
> Too bad I don't believe in the S5 modal logic, nor do I think  that
> St-Anselm definition of God is the best one. But who knows?
>
> So you see Popperian theology is *more and more* coming back, after all.
>
> It is indisputably valid mathematical theology. This does not mean
> interesting, of course.
>
> It is probably a difficult question to see if such a notion of God is
> compatible or related with the "natural" platonic Gods of the universal
> machine (Arithmetical Truth, Truth).
>
> Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not
> falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness
> "here-and-now", which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (except
> for the zombies of course). OK?
>
> That's why a scientist will never assert that his statement are truthful,
> he will always remind the assumptions used to link the measurement results.
>
> Note also that many scientists lose Popperianity at the pose café.
>
> I find Popperianity as a very important principle of science, yet I do
> think it is false in many other important case. I can doubt all theories,
> but not all experiences (or I lie to myself).
>
> Bruno
>
>
>  http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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