On 20 Oct 2013, at 12:01, Russell Standish wrote:

On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 08:52:41AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:

We have always that [o]p -> [o][o]p  (like we have also always that
[]p -> [][]p)



There may be things we can prove, but about which we are in fact mistaken, ie
[]p & -p

That is consistent. (Shit happens, we became unsound).

In that case we can prove Bf. From this we still cannot prove f (Bf -> f = ~Bf = "I am consistent" (3p self-reference).





Obviously, one cannot prove []p & p, for very many statements, ie

[]p & p does not entail []([o]p)

[]p -> [][]p  OK?

(and []p -> []p, and p -> p) + ([](p & p) <-> []p & []q) (derivable in G)

so    []p & p -> [][]p & ([]p & p)
                     -> []([]p & p) & ([]p & p),

thus ([]p & p) ->  [][o]p    (& [o]p : thus [o]p -> [o][o]p)


Therefore, it cannot be that [o]p -> [o]([o]p) ???

Something must be wrong...


I hope I am not too short above, (and that there is not to much typo!)

Bruno


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