On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:35:26 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
> On 30 October 2013 16:07, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > We don’t know that chemical reactions are unconscious... 
> The brain is chemical reactions and consciousness seems to happen when 
> these chemical reactions happen, and not when they don't happen. 

You are talking about *our personal consciousness*. I am not. It is as if 
you were telling me that because the lights go off when you turn off the 
switch, there can be no such thing as the power grid.

> This 
> we know. We don't know if consciousness of a strange type happens when 
> a hammer hits a nail, for example. It might, it might not. The hammer 
> might also have free will: "I hit the nail because I decided to hit 
> the nail. If I didn't decide to hit the nail I wouldn't have hit it. 
> Sure, my action could be ascribed to a series of mechanistic events, 
> but these mechanistic events follow from my decision, not the other 
> way around." 

To project your own free will onto an inanimate object facetiously is not 
an argument against the fact that you have free will to begin with to 
project. Arguing against free will is meaningless. If you are right, then 
your opinion is involuntary and it doesn't matter whether anyone agrees or 
not because they have no choice either. Only someone with free will can 
participate in an argument and care about the outcome.


> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou 

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