Not to be sarcastic, but probably yes. Money from bitumin brings money for research into environmental remediation. It also helps liberate people from pouring cash into the OPEC world, which seems to only inflame Muslim passions. Plus the Canadians are world class technologists and will likely invent more efficient engines, and also fund the green technologies that you crave. Theres a reason why poor nations do not do technology well.
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From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Nov 7, 2013 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally destroying vast swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical saturated moonscape as well as sucking up vast amounts of water from other potential uses -- including agriculture. Will the bitumen sweated out of that sand be worth the ultimate costs to get it?


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:24 AM, Jesse Mazer &lt;laserma...@gmail.com&gt; wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM, &lt;spudboy...@aol.com&gt; wrote:Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-wise. Unless you are buying into technological unemployment (robots, software) then we have to face the fact. BHO's Keynesian way has fallen on its ass and has stayed down, like a fighter throwing a fight, after a payoff.

I've read Keynesians like Paul Krugman say that the level of stimulus was actually not enough by Keynesian standards (and too much went to tax cuts), but certainly the US economy with its level of stimulus did much better than most of the states that more thoroughly rejected Keynesianism and instead chose austerity in the midst of a recession, like the UK...see various graphs at http://graphsagainstausterity.tumblr.com/ (click on any graph to see the original article it came from)

 
Increased government employment doesn't seem to generate tax revenue very well.

Except government employment hasn't increased under Obama, it's actually been steadily decreasing during his presidency (apart from a brief spike when the decennial census was taken and they needed a lot of temporary census workers), due mostly to the Republicans in Congress, whereas under George W. Bush government employment was steadily increasing (this collapsing of the public sector is probably contributing quite a bit to the slow recovery). See the two graphs showing private sector and public sector jobs under Bush and Obama here:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2013/04/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs-bush-and-obama.html




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