On 18 December 2013 16:51, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/17/2013 7:32 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 18 December 2013 13:00, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12/17/2013 3:40 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 18 December 2013 12:23, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> The first step has to be to stop population growth. That's pretty >>> much happened in all the OECD nations, except the U.S. and it would be the >>> case there too except for immigration from the south. How to stop >>> population growth: *educate women* so they can lead meaningful lives aside >>> from bearing children and provide readily available birth control; and get >>> rid of Catholicism, Mormonism, and any other religion preaches against >>> birth control. >>> >>> That is exactly how to stop population growth. Wherever women are >> given equal rights the birth rate drops dramatically (if they are forced to >> choose between children and a career, it drops precipitously - the places >> that get the balance right allow you to do both). >> >> >> I think it takes education too. There's a high birthrate among teenage >> latina girls in CA and I think it's just because culturally motherhood is >> the only adult endeavor that's presented to them. >> >> "Equal rights" includes education, of course. > > > Those latinas have equal rights and the same access to education - but > they don't take advantage of the opportunity. I'm saying it's necessary > that women be educated; not just that they have a right to it. I think WW2 > did a lot for population control in the U.S. simply because so many women > were placed in "men's" jobs during the war. My mother, born 1914, didn't > want to be a farm wife and she felt her only choices were nurse and > schoolteacher. She became a teacher and started in a two-room country > school when she was 19. My daughters are a physicist, an industrial safety > statistician, and a water quality monitor. > > OK, I can see that I have to spell out what I'm saying. I tried to shorthand it as "equal rights" (and "fair trade") which taken broadly comes to what you're saying, but if you're going to insist on nitpicking each detail, I guess I can't post in haste and expect to be understood. So due to time constraints I will ignore the rest of what youv'e said here until later, much as I would like to respond to it, and answer this one point.
Yes, obviously a "right" to education, if interpretted narrowly enough, isn't going to be any help. My kids would probably spend most of their time not being educated if that was an option, which would be a terrible waste of potential. So yes, I was actually talking about the whole shebang, education, rights, opportunities, respect, fairness, and not being treated like an idiot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

