On 19 Jan 2014, at 22:26, LizR wrote:

On 20 January 2014 08:56, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 1/18/2014 7:38 PM, LizR wrote:
Or it could be because we, denizens of this physics/universe, invent them.

Why would that make it effective, though? After all we also invented fairy tales, and conspiracy theories, and religion, and...)
And those fairy tales were effective too - up to a point. "Don't sleep near the swamp because the night demons will make you sick.", probably saved a lot of people from malaria.

Fairy tales and religion "work", in this sense (when they do - there's a lot of nonsense invented by humans, too!) because they encode knowledge about the world. So why does maths work? If it encodes knowledge about the world, where does that information come from?

Of course comp answer that question. Arithmetic contains all the duplication, and information is what you get when the FPI apply to you. In the WM-duplication, each copies get one bit of information after they have localized themselves. Such self-duplication, or multi "preparation" are iterated in the infinite in arithmetic.

Bruno




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