On 21 January 2014 14:25, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 1/20/2014 5:00 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 21 January 2014 06:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   On 1/20/2014 1:11 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>  On 20 January 2014 18:51, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  You seem not to appreciate that this dissipates the one essential
>>> advantage of mathematical monism: we understand mathematics (because, I
>>> say, we invent it).  But if it's a mere human invention trying to model the
>>> Platonic ding and sich  then PA may not be the real arithmetic.  And
>>> there will have to be some magic math stuff that makes the real arithmetic
>>> really real.
>>>
>>>  Surely the real test is whether it works better than any other theory.
>>  (The phrase "unreasonable effectiveness" appears to indicate that it does.)
>>
>>
>>  Would it work any less well if there were a biggest number?
>>
>
>  I don't know. I would imagine so, because that would be a theory with an
> ad hoc extra clause with no obvious justification, so every calculation
> would have to carry extra baggage around. If I raise a number to the power
> of 100, say, I have to check first that the result isn't going to exceed
> the biggest number, and take appropriate action - whatever that is - if it
> will... what would be the point of that?
>
>
> Just make it an axiom that the biggest number is bigger than any number
> you calculate.  In other words just prohibit using those "..." and "so
> forth" in your theorems.
>

So you are saying "there's a biggest number, but we don't know what it is.
But it's big. Really big. You may think it's a long way down the road to
the chemist, but that's peanuts copared to this number. You just can't
imagine how vastly, mind-boggling huge it is..."

Or words to that effect (with thanks to the late and occasionally great
Douglas Adams).

Why would you want to do that? It seems like an unnecessary extra axiom
that doesn't have any purpose or utility.

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