Edgar, Electric fields also come out if the BH singularity has a charge. Richard
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, time for THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION of how gravity can escape from a > black hole.... > > Liz, Brent, and Richard, > > OK, nobody got the answer so I'll explain it myself. It's pretty simple > but still pretty profound and thought provoking.... > > Gravity IS what needs to be escaped. So it doesn't even make sense to ask > how gravity could escape ITSELF. > > There wouldn't even be a black hole if gravity hadn't already escaped the > black hole to create its gravitational effect. > > So what this means is that gravity is the only thing than CAN escape a > black hole because it is gravity itself that creates the gravitational > field that must be escaped! > > Thus gravity, and only gravity, can manifest freely OUTSIDE a black hole > the effects of its INSIDE mass. > > Thus gravity is the only thing that freely COMES OUT of a black hole > through the event horizon, because what stops everything else from coming > out is gravity itself. But obviously gravity can't stop itself from coming > out through the event horizon, because only its already manifesting > presence is what stops everything else from coming out through the event > horizon, but it already must have come out to stop everything else from > coming out... > > Thus before gravity comes out through the event horizon, there is nothing > to stop anything from coming out. Thus gravity can freely emerge through > the event horizon and only by doing so is it able to prevent anything else > from coming out.... > > Hope I'm explaining this clearly? > > Edgar > > > > On Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:29:45 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >> >> On 25 January 2014 16:31, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 1/24/2014 4:41 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >>> >>>> Brent, >>>> >>>> No, my proposed dark matter effect has nothing to do with black holes. >>>> Black holes are caused by accumulations of actual visible matter, not by >>>> the Hubble expansion of space... >>>> >>>> However I do have a question for you. Since gravitational changes >>>> propagate at the speed of light how does the mass inside a black hole >>>> produce gravitational effects outside the black hole? If light can't come >>>> out how can gravitational effects come out? >>>> >>> >>> You are thinking of gravity as mediated by force particles, like photons >>> mediate the EM forces. But (at least classically) gravity isn't a force, >>> it's just a shape of space and as I responded to Liz, there's not mass in a >>> black hole, no T_u_v term in the Einstein equation. It's a vacuum >>> solution. That's why it doesn't make any different what falls in to create >>> the black hole. The effects outside the event horizon are just that the >>> space is warped there just *as if* the black hole were a massive object. >>> >>> I believe Richard Feynmann was asked the same question (about how >> gravity "escapes" a black hole). Of course gravity WAVES can't escape a >> black hole... >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
