Brent,

No, my proposed dark matter effect has nothing to do with black holes. 
Black holes are caused by accumulations of actual visible matter, not by 
the Hubble expansion of space...

However I do have a question for you. Since gravitational changes propagate 
at the speed of light how does the mass inside a black hole produce 
gravitational effects outside the black hole? If light can't come out how 
can gravitational effects come out?

Edgar



On Friday, January 24, 2014 5:59:05 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>
> On 1/24/2014 5:01 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: 
> > Liz, 
> > 
> > Once the warp is formed it can easily separate from the matter that 
> caused it. At that 
> > point it is effectively just another mass of matter. That is why it's 
> called dark 
> > matter. And of course masses separate from each other all the time. 
> > 
> > Don't think of it like it's continued existence depends on the original 
> galactic mass. 
> > Once it's created it exists as a separate dark mass that can go anywhere 
> it likes under 
> > gravitational forces just like VISIBLE matter can... 
>
> A warp in space that is bound together by its own gravitation is what is 
> known as a black 
> hole. 
>
> Note that Hawking as just posted a paper casting doubt on their existence: 
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.5761 
>
> Information Preservation and Weather Forecasting for Black Holes 
> S. W. Hawking 
> (Submitted on 22 Jan 2014) 
>
>      It has been suggested [1] that the resolution of the information 
> paradox for 
> evaporating black holes is that the holes are surrounded by firewalls, 
> bolts of outgoing 
> radiation that would destroy any infalling observer. Such firewalls would 
> break the CPT 
> invariance of quantum gravity and seem to be ruled out on other grounds. A 
> different 
> resolution of the paradox is proposed, namely that gravitational collapse 
> produces 
> apparent horizons but no event horizons behind which information is lost. 
> This proposal is 
> supported by ADS-CFT and is the only resolution of the paradox compatible 
> with CPT. The 
> collapse to form a black hole will in general be chaotic and the dual CFT 
> on the boundary 
> of ADS will be turbulent. Thus, like weather forecasting on Earth, 
> information will 
> effectively be lost, although there would be no loss of unitarity. 
>
> Brent 
>
>

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