On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:02 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:53 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think you guys need to provide your definitions of God and compare
>> them.
>>
>
> I use the exact same definition that BILLIONS of people on this planet
> use: the word "God" refers to an intelligent conscious being who created
> the universe. And the most important part is intelligent and conscious and
> being!
>

That's a philosophical argument, btw. You may emerge from your homemade
closet someday.

Unfortunately, I am immune to your rhetorical "matter-of-factness
arguments" with straw men + caps everywhere, and I doubt that billions of
people understand your philosophical usage of "intelligent", "conscious",
and the clear philosophically-existentialist slant of using "being" (i.e.
your "doer-matter-of-factness-
straight-shooter-consistency-brutal-honesty-performance-of-non-philosophy-hard-viagran-scienceness"
;-) ).

Just admit it: you're a closet philosopher with identity crises. Since you
won't see a therapist, I am here to tell you: "It's ok. Everything will be
alright. Nobody will hurt you for making philosophical points."

But even granting that, and that your appeal to majority opinion might hold
in court: Science and theology, responsibly practiced, thankfully have
higher standards than this. The Greeks did. Even the ignoramuses that
Einstein kept reading.


> Calling anything less "God" is a betrayal of the language.
>

Betrayal of DA language? No way...

So now you are authority on linguistic semantics? Better catch those
traitors then...


>  I do NOT use the vague definitions embraced by some members of this list
> and a few professional philosophers who are more interested in words than
> ideas.
>

Then why do you use words as a means of expressing ideas?

Your implicit assumption that only your language use, concerning
transcendental topics (of all things!), expresses "pure idea" rather than
"word play" is not an argument. It is your usual bigotry as it is not
congruent with any conception of "transcendental", including colloquial use
of "God", which is much more varied than your philosophical cartoon of the
holy trinity of "intelligent, conscious, and being."  PGC


>
> You can make words mean anything you want, I could say "Maxwell's
> Equations are a funny standup comedian", all I'd have to do is change the
> meaning of "funny standup comedian", and it would require less dramatic
> surgery to English than to calling some amorphous blob of nothing that
> can't think or feel "God".
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
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