On 25 Jan 2014, at 21:35, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Liz, Bruno and John,
Liz is spot on here. Almost all of the interminable arguments about
God are simply because different unstated definitions are being used.
God is a matter of definition not of empirical discovery.
You can't be sure of that.
The only rational definition of God (if anyone needs one) is the
universe itself,
It is one of the aristotelian God. I don't believe in such a God. I am
agnostic, but the evidences have accumulated that it does not exist.
It certainly does not exist if the computationalist theory of mind is
correct, as it makes no more sense then.
because that guarantees that God exists,
With comp, it guaranted that God does not exist. You talk like if
someone succeeded in proving the existence of a (primitive) physical
universe. this contradicts your assumption of "purely logical comp
assumption".
It look, like John Clarck and many materialist, that you take the
existence of a primitiuve physical universe for granted. But this is a
string metaphysical assumption, and it is incompatible with the
digital mechanist assumption.
and then the attributes of God become simply matters for science to
discover, thus ending most of the fruitless arguments.
In the catholic authoritative manner.
We know what is real, so don't search anymore. Don't ask.
And as anyone who knows basic science realizes,
Again.
this definition of God is infinitely more rich and interesting than
the old Biblical God which is simply a story from the childhood of
mankind that should have been added to the corpus of myths and fairy
tales long ago.
Certainly to believe in the Biblical God is a mass delusion and
indicative of serious psychological problems ... Belief in the
Biblical God should be recognized in the DSM as a psychological
disorder and should be treated as other psychological disorders
are....
Comp explains that the belief in a primitive physical universe is an
even deeper mass delusion on numbers, but introspecting numbers can
see that.
Bruno
Edgar
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:53:13 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
I think you guys need to provide your definitions of God and compare
them. I imagine they're rather different.
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