On 2/3/2014 4:03 PM, David Nyman wrote:
On 3 February 2014 23:42, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
That's hard to say. I think conscious thought will be found to a class of
thoughts
and there will be degrees of consciousness and it will be complicated and the
"Hard
Problem" will be seen to have been overly simplistic. It may have an
answer, like
"If it can do induction or Cantor diagonalization it's conscious.", but
that may be
only one kind of consciousness and probably not the most interesting.
Maybe so, but that's still essentially about the public aspects, isn't it? I guess I'm
asking if you think that, in the final analysis, any interesting categorical distinction
will remain between the public behaviour that accompanies consciousness (however
sophisticated the model) and the private experience of its consequences in one's own
case. If such a distinction does remain, people (some of them anyway) will still no
doubt feel that something has been left out of the explanation. I accept that many
people even now see no need for any such distinction - I've often had trouble getting
people who've never considered the matter to grasp what is meant by the HP.Do you
personally simply reserve judgement, or do you tend to swing one way or the other?
I don't think experience will be explained away. It might be possible to temporarily
share experiences by some kind of brain-to-brain connection or recorded experiences. But
they won't be exactly the same and they will still be private because they're partial. If
this connection gave me exactly your experience then I'd be you and not me - at least
until the connection were broken so I could remember being me as well as the experience.
Brent
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