On 4 February 2014 13:57, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2/3/2014 4:03 PM, David Nyman wrote: > > On 3 February 2014 23:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's hard to say. I think conscious thought will be found to a class of >> thoughts and there will be degrees of consciousness and it will be >> complicated and the "Hard Problem" will be seen to have been overly >> simplistic. It may have an answer, like "If it can do induction or Cantor >> diagonalization it's conscious.", but that may be only one kind of >> consciousness and probably not the most interesting. > > > Maybe so, but that's still essentially about the public aspects, isn't > it? I guess I'm asking if you think that, in the final analysis, any > interesting categorical distinction will remain between the public > behaviour that accompanies consciousness (however sophisticated the model) > and the private experience of its consequences in one's own case. If such a > distinction does remain, people (some of them anyway) will still no doubt > feel that something has been left out of the explanation. I accept that > many people even now see no need for any such distinction - I've often had > trouble getting people who've never considered the matter to grasp what is > meant by the HP.Do you personally simply reserve judgement, or do you tend > to swing one way or the other? > > > I don't think experience will be explained away. It might be possible to > temporarily share experiences by some kind of brain-to-brain connection or > recorded experiences. But they won't be exactly the same and they will > still be private because they're partial. If this connection gave me > exactly your experience then I'd be you and not me - at least until the > connection were broken so I could remember being me as well as the > experience. > > My science fictional imaginings include being able to record brain states - experiences plus memories - and play them back to another brain.If that ever comes to pass, then the person experiencing the playback would think and feel that they were the other person, until the end of the recording.
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