On 12 February 2014 05:29, Jesse Mazer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jesse,
>>
>> I agree that Individual relativistic equations from a particular
>> coordinate system don't support p-time simultaneity but comparing both
>> equations of the two coordinate systems in the system, e.g. twin A and twin
>> B, relativity clearly DOES imply a notion of p-time simultaneity because it
>> does allow a 1:1 relationship between the comoving clock times in their own
>> frames of A and B.
>>
>
> You mean even if twins A and B are in relative notion you think "comparing
> both equations of the two coordinate systems ... does allow a 1:1
> relationship between the comoving clock times in their own frame of A and
> B"? If so, I have no idea what you mean. Say twin B and twin A start moving
> away from each other with a relative speed of 0.6c at birth, so in each
> one's rest frame the other one's clock is running slow by a factor of 0.8.
> Then in twin A's inertial rest frame, the event of A turning 50 is
> simultaneous with twin B turning 40, but in B's inertial rest frame, the
> event of B turning 40 is simultaneous with A turning 32. So what is the
> "1:1 relationship" here, and what event on A's worldline does it pair with
> the event of B turning 40?
>

I don't have time to plough through Edgar's posts to find out the answer to
this, but (brave soul that you are) you have obvisouly done so... and it is
a simple, straightforward question...

So, did he answer this in a simple, unambiguous, non-hand-waving,
non-pompous, non-spluttering-with-indignation fashion that actually gave
you a sensible and convincing answer?

(I have a little bet with myself about your answer to this question :-)

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