Stathis, You've of course hit on the crux in your explanation, though perhaps unknowingly so.
You state "The me, yesterday is not me, now...". Yes, I agree completely. You, yourself have just stated the selection mechanism is the 'NOW' which you mention. It is the now that you are in that selects which version of Stathis you are on the basis of what time it is in that now. The Stathis that corresponds to that time is the Stathis that you are right now at that time. That is what I've been telling you, that you are the Stathis version of yourself that you are because that is the only one that exists in this NOW in which you exist. That in itself demonstrates there is a now, a present moment, which selects the actual version of yourself that you are at this particular time. And if there is a particular now, then time MUST flow... You, yourself demonstrate my point... Edgar On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:18:17 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On 24 February 2014 08:09, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Stathis, > > > > This is just Sophistry that avoids the real question. Everyone of the > > Stathis instantiations may well feel it is the real one, but why is the > one > > you are right now the one I am talking to? > > > > It could be anyone of them? Right? So why is it the one you think you > are > > right now? > > > > The only logical answer is because it is the one that coincides with the > > present moment in which we are talking. Right? > > > > But the only way that can be true is if there is a real present moment > that > > selects the current Stathis. There is no logical way around that. There > > absolutely has to be a selection mechanism that selects which Stathis > you > > experience yourself as, and that can only be the one in the current > present > > moment. > > > > Ten minutes ago you were that Stathis. Now you are this Stathis. Why the > > change in which one you are? The only possible mechanism is a current > > present moment, and that conclusively falsifies the block universe > theory. > > > > There is simply no logical way around this... > > > > Why are you not the Stathis you were 10 minutes ago? Answer is because > it is > > NOT 10 minutes ago now. It is now now, and that now is what selects the > > Stathis you are now.... > > It's not sophistry. I maintain that the reason I feel myself to be me, > now, and not one of the other versions of me who may exist elsewhere > in the multiverse is trivially obvious, in the same way as it is > trivially obvious why I don't feel myself to be any of the other > billions of people in the world. The inhabitants of China are not me, > now even though they look a bit like me, now and their mental states > are a bit like mine, now. The me, yesterday is not me, now even though > he looks a bit like me, now and his mental state is a bit like mine, > now. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
