Stathis, This is just Sophistry that avoids the real question. Everyone of the Stathis instantiations may well feel it is the real one, but why is the one you are right now the one I am talking to?
It could be anyone of them? Right? So why is it the one you think you are right now? The only logical answer is because it is the one that coincides with the present moment in which we are talking. Right? But the only way that can be true is if there is a real present moment that selects the current Stathis. There is no logical way around that. There absolutely has to be a selection mechanism that selects which Stathis you experience yourself as, and that can only be the one in the current present moment. Ten minutes ago you were that Stathis. Now you are this Stathis. Why the change in which one you are? The only possible mechanism is a current present moment, and that conclusively falsifies the block universe theory. There is simply no logical way around this... Why are you not the Stathis you were 10 minutes ago? Answer is because it is NOT 10 minutes ago now. It is now now, and that now is what selects the Stathis you are now.... Edgar On Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:48:18 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 24, 2014, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Stathis, >> >> A couple more questions. >> >> Do you believe you are the same one of your block time selves at 8:00 AM >> as you are at 8:01 AM? Presumably you aren't. You are a different block >> time self in every instant of your existence. Right? I'm not talking to the >> same block time Stathis now that I was yesterday. Right? >> > > Right. > > >> Then what process actually chooses which Stathis I'm talking to right now >> as opposed to all the others? Why are you the one Stathis you are right now >> as opposed to all the others? >> > > The yesterday you was talking (and perhaps we could say timelessly is > talking) to the yesterday me and the today you is talking to the today me. > If we could time travel we could see our previous and future selves, but we > can't. > > >> Isn't it true that it's the one that is at the present moment? In which >> case there has to be a present moment that passes down the Stathis >> worldline and selects which Stathis is the current Stathis. Right? >> > > No, there is no privileged current Stathis. > > >> If not then how is the current Stathis you experience yourself as right >> now selected? Obviously you experience yourself being only one Stathis at a >> time. What selects the current Stathis you experience yourself as being, >> and deselects all others? >> > > The others are not deselected. They all feel they are the present Stathis, > just as a physical copy of me in the next room would feel he is the current > me. > > >> On the other hand if you claim that every Stathis is continually >> experiencing itself in its present moment then why are you this one rather >> than any of those other ones? >> > > It's the same as asking why I experience myself as me rather than one of > the other 7 billion people in the world. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
