Jason, This initially interesting post of course exposes fundamental flaws in its logic and the way that a lot of people get mislead by physically impossible thought experiments such as the whole interminable p-clone, p-zombie discussion on this group.
First there is of course no physical mechanism that continually produces clones and places them in separate rooms, nor is there any MW process that does that, so the whole analysis is moot, and frankly childish as it doesn't even take into consideration what aspects of reality change randomly and which don't. Specifically it's NOT room numbers that seem random, it's quantum level events. If anyone is looking for the source of quantum randomness I've already provided an explanation. It occurs as fragmentary spacetimes are created by quantum events and then merged via shared quantum events. There can be no deterministic rules for aligning separate spacetime fragments thus nature is forced to make those alignments randomly. But sadly no one on this group is interested in quantum theory, only relativity, and far out philosophies such as 'comp'. Edgar If you read carefully it assumes a single real present moment self that has the experience of being in one room or the other. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:49:03 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > I came upon an interesting passage in "Our Mathematical Universe", > starting on page 194, which I think members of this list might appreciate: > > "It gradually hit me that this illusion of randomness business really > wasn't specific to quantum mechanics at all. Suppose that some future > technology allows you to be cloned while you're sleeping, and that your two > copies are placed in rooms numbered 0 and 1 (Figure 8.3). When they wake > up, they'll both feel that the room number they read is completely > unpredictable and random. If in the future, it becomes possible for you to > upload your mind to a computer, then what I'm saying here will feel totally > obvious and intuitive to you, since cloning yourself will be as easy as > making a copy of your software. If you repeated the cloning experiment from > Figure 8.3 many times and wrote down your room number each time, you'd in > almost all cases find that the sequence of zeros and ones you'd written > looked random, with zeros occurring about 50% of the time. In other words, > causal physics will produce the illusion of randomness from your subjective > viewpoint in any circumstance where you're being cloned. The fundamental > reason that quantum mechanics appears random even though the wave function > evolves deterministically is that the Schrodinger equation can evolve a > wavefunction with a single you into one with clones of you in parallel > universes. So how does it feel when you get cloned? It feels random! And > every time something fundamentally random appears to happen to you, which > couldn't have been predicted even in principle, it's a sign that you've > been cloned." > > Jason > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
