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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LizR
Nevertheless, it does seem to be. That is, 17 is a prime number regardless
of whether anyone knows it is, or even knows what numbers are, or indeed
whether anyone is even alive (e.g. it was prime in the first instants of the
big bang - maths has been used to work out what happened in the early
universe, with observable consequences now). There's a lot of hand waving
going on to deny this, but I haven't seen a knock down argument (or even a
suggestion of one) to indicate otherwise.
Couldn't one argue that 17 (and all primes) are artifacts of the ontology of
math; that they necessarily arise from and within it. Does the seeming fact
that we cannot have math without primes; therefore imply that math - for
lack of better words - "just is"?
That is quite a leap - IMO.
Chris
On 1 March 2014 18:16, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote:
"If it's all math, then where does math come from?"
>>Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it is
a fact that 1+1=2.
Somehow I do not find that satisfying; in what way and by what evidence does
this occur?
Especially - as I had posited if math is the fundamental thing - even more
fundamental than the emergent material universe. I could see this logic in a
pre-existing universe replete with 10 to a very large number of atoms, but
if math is to be the superstructure underlying everything then I - speaking
for myself - am not satisfied by saying it just is a fact.
Chris
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