John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the solution is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical sources. The problem is these sources cannot yet do it. But the progressives demand this anyway. It should not rationally matter what energy source we use, as long as it works, but we now have ideology in play.
-----Original Message----- From: John Mikes <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Mar 1, 2014 2:51 pm Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany Spudboy and Liz: I wanted to ask 'why the closed mind FOR solar?' when I detected the original title about Germany going for it. Still a closed mind to assign the rest to coal (fossil). All that with Liz's example of NZ (hydro). No Windfarms? no Geotherm? In our capitalistic ways profit is the biggest driving force. No gov't "bribe" can override it. Today the fossils are supported (polluting allowances, tax-structures, mining support, help for distribution grids, etc. and no definite adequate treatise for the cost of solar. (Especially on a 7/24 basis). One side-remark: I failed to realize in descriptions of hybrid-vehicles the amount of OIL etc. necessary to produce the electricity for battery recharging plotted against the saving in gasoline-based fuel...Could we 'read' beyond our nose? JM On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, if this is all true and available today, or very, soon, Japan, which experienced the core meltdown at Fukushima, has not pursued a crash program of PV farms.?all over to replace nuclear. I read energy stuff all the time, as you must, and have seen a PV farm at sea, proposal. But I don't see this as more than the normal R&D. I hope you are correct. There's a radiation leak, in the American Southwest, at the plutonium waste storage facility. -----Original Message----- From: Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:39 pm Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany >>Can you do the same with London in the UK? Yes >>Can you produce 4 times more than it consumes Tokyo? Yes >>Can you do this at night, and can you do this during times of rain and >>snowstorms? Electric energy can be stored. Utility scale electric energy storage is advancing very rapidly. So, yes. The article wasn't clear. A coal plant or a uranium plant can do quite a bit of this also, and transmit the excess electricity to other towns and cities, on a 7 x 24 basis. If, for any reason, we cannot do this with solar, then..? Also, what is the cost per kilowatt. I have heard that solar has made great progress in the last several years with with efficiency and cost-price. The cost per kilowatt -- for complete installed systems -- is starting to get close to parity with the cost for electricity from coal. In ten years from now solar will be far less expensive than coal electricity. -----Original Message----- From: Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:07 am Subject: RE: The solar example of a town in Germany It produces 4X the energy it needs just from the solar PV on the roofs of its buildings…. Isn’t it amazing what you can accomplish with such dilute sources of energy. I include the link because the pictures are pretty cool, and illustrate what a solar city could look like. http://inhabitat.com/sonnenschiff-solar-city-produces-4x-the-energy-it-needs/ What can I say – I have an architecture kick, especially when it is sustainable and low footprint. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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