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John, because those in power say that Global Warming is imminent, and the
solution is to switch to wind and solar, and shut off the dirty electrical
sources. The problem is these sources cannot yet do it. But the progressives
demand this anyway. It should not rationally matter what energy source we use,
as long as it works, but we now have ideology in play.
News flash – global warming IS imminent – it does not matter whether you
believe so or not, blinded by your ideology. The data speaks for itself.
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From: John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 1, 2014 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany
Spudboy and Liz:
I wanted to ask 'why the closed mind FOR solar?' when I detected the original
title about Germany going for it. Still a closed mind to assign the rest to
coal (fossil). All that with Liz's example of NZ (hydro). No Windfarms? no
Geotherm?
In our capitalistic ways profit is the biggest driving force. No gov't "bribe"
can override it.
Today the fossils are supported (polluting allowances, tax-structures, mining
support, help for distribution grids, etc. and no definite adequate treatise
for the cost of solar.
(Especially on a 7/24 basis).
One side-remark: I failed to realize in descriptions of hybrid-vehicles the
amount of OIL etc. necessary to produce the electricity for battery recharging
plotted against the saving in gasoline-based fuel...Could we 'read' beyond our
nose?
JM
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:58 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
Chris, if this is all true and available today, or very, soon, Japan, which
experienced the core meltdown at Fukushima, has not pursued a crash program of
PV farms.?all over to replace nuclear. I read energy stuff all the time, as you
must, and have seen a PV farm at sea, proposal. But I don't see this as more
than the normal R&D. I hope you are correct. There's a radiation leak, in the
American Southwest, at the plutonium waste storage facility.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany
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From: "spudboy...@aol.com" <spudboy...@aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany
>>Can you do the same with London in the UK?
Yes
>>Can you produce 4 times more than it consumes Tokyo?
Yes
>>Can you do this at night, and can you do this during times of rain and
>>snowstorms?
Electric energy can be stored. Utility scale electric energy storage is
advancing very rapidly. So, yes.
The article wasn't clear. A coal plant or a uranium plant can do quite a bit of
this also, and transmit the excess electricity to other towns and cities, on a
7 x 24 basis. If, for any reason, we cannot do this with solar, then..? Also,
what is the cost per kilowatt. I have heard that solar has made great progress
in the last several years with with efficiency and cost-price.
The cost per kilowatt -- for complete installed systems -- is starting to get
close to parity with the cost for electricity from coal. In ten years from now
solar will be far less expensive than coal electricity.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:07 am
Subject: RE: The solar example of a town in Germany
It produces 4X the energy it needs just from the solar PV on the roofs of its
buildings…. Isn’t it amazing what you can accomplish with such dilute sources
of energy. I include the link because the pictures are pretty cool, and
illustrate what a solar city could look like.
http://inhabitat.com/sonnenschiff-solar-city-produces-4x-the-energy-it-needs/
What can I say – I have an architecture kick, especially when it is sustainable
and low footprint.
Chris
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