On 4 March 2014 08:00, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 3/3/2014 10:57 AM, LizR wrote:
>
> What is this "everything" which is "computational" ? Specifically, what
> does the processing, what stores the results? A computation needs states
> and a programme and input and output data. What are these, where are they
> stored? Also, a computation uses energy and (I think when erasing) raises
> entropy. Starting with something that is ill defined doesn't bode well for
> the rest of the theory.
>
> You should ask these questions of Bruno.  ;-)
>

I have, of course (as have others on this list and FOAR). I believe the
answer involves arithmetic realism and the Church-Turing thesis, and
something to do with how numbers can be computations relative to other
numbers - I don't pretend to understand it completely, but at least Bruno
is trying, patiently and politely, to educate me to the point where I can
grasp what he's saying. And then, hopefully, I'll be able to decide for
myself whether I think he's right or not.

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